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> <channel><title>Comments on: When Price Becomes the Only Factor</title> <atom:link href="http://almostfrugal.com/2008/10/20/when-price-becomes-the-only-factor/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://almostfrugal.com/2008/10/20/when-price-becomes-the-only-factor/</link> <description>Learning about frugality</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:11:06 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Alline Anderson</title><link>http://almostfrugal.com/2008/10/20/when-price-becomes-the-only-factor/#comment-2678</link> <dc:creator>Alline Anderson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:13:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://almostfrugal.com/?p=1535#comment-2678</guid> <description>Kelly, Gray, Suburban Wife, and all - It&#039;s nice to read your thoughtful posts. Giving up Cheerios and Dr. Pepper was HARD (I occasionally have both, and enjoy &#039;em!). But that&#039;s beside the point. Price has always been important to me, but so is eating well. And the more I learn about the US food system, the more I feel empowered by paying &quot;more&quot; for organic, fair trade food. Sure that packaged stuff from Kraft (or Wolfgang Puck, or Stauffers) is convenient, but are you really getting value for your money? You&#039;re paying for advertising, packaging, the CEO&#039;s golden parachute...not for food. That is the cheapest part of the product.  Who would you rather support - small organic farmers or corporations? I don&#039;t know about you, but I hate being manipulated. Just for fun, check out a documentary called King Corn ( http://tinyurl.com/5l8o6t). Two guys rent an acre of Iowa corn field and follow their crop. Along the way we learn about corn-fed beef (cattle were never meant to eat corn, but it is cheap, and fattens them up nicely), how the only profit the farmers make after purchasing GMO seed and pesticides is from government subsidies, how corn syrup is in EVERYTHING, and how it is not particularly healthy. Sigh. I love a good steak, I love Stauffer&#039;s Mac &amp; cheese, I even like McDonald&#039;s secret sauce (so much for my green cred!). But I now try to eat only sustainably raised grass-fed beef. I make my own mac n cheese (pretty darned good!). And my secret sauce? Someday McDonald&#039;s will be knocking on MY door asking for the recipe. We try to save money my eating &quot;lower on the food chain&quot; and using meat and dairy as extras, not the main event. Lots of gray areas in living!
&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Alline Anderson&#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://passiongreenbusiness.blogspot.com/2008/10/boo.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Boo!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelly, Gray, Suburban Wife, and all &#8211; It&#8217;s nice to read your thoughtful posts. Giving up Cheerios and Dr. Pepper was HARD (I occasionally have both, and enjoy &#8216;em!). But that&#8217;s beside the point. Price has always been important to me, but so is eating well. And the more I learn about the US food system, the more I feel empowered by paying &#8220;more&#8221; for organic, fair trade food. Sure that packaged stuff from Kraft (or Wolfgang Puck, or Stauffers) is convenient, but are you really getting value for your money? You&#8217;re paying for advertising, packaging, the CEO&#8217;s golden parachute&#8230;not for food. That is the cheapest part of the product.  Who would you rather support &#8211; small organic farmers or corporations? I don&#8217;t know about you, but I hate being manipulated. Just for fun, check out a documentary called King Corn ( <a
href="http://tinyurl.com/5l8o6t" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/5l8o6t</a>). Two guys rent an acre of Iowa corn field and follow their crop. Along the way we learn about corn-fed beef (cattle were never meant to eat corn, but it is cheap, and fattens them up nicely), how the only profit the farmers make after purchasing GMO seed and pesticides is from government subsidies, how corn syrup is in EVERYTHING, and how it is not particularly healthy. Sigh. I love a good steak, I love Stauffer&#8217;s Mac &amp; cheese, I even like McDonald&#8217;s secret sauce (so much for my green cred!). But I now try to eat only sustainably raised grass-fed beef. I make my own mac n cheese (pretty darned good!). And my secret sauce? Someday McDonald&#8217;s will be knocking on MY door asking for the recipe. We try to save money my eating &#8220;lower on the food chain&#8221; and using meat and dairy as extras, not the main event. Lots of gray areas in living!</p><p><abbr><em>Alline Anderson&#180;s last blog post..<a
href="http://passiongreenbusiness.blogspot.com/2008/10/boo.html" rel="nofollow">Boo!</a></em></abbr></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Suburban Wife</title><link>http://almostfrugal.com/2008/10/20/when-price-becomes-the-only-factor/#comment-2618</link> <dc:creator>Suburban Wife</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:24:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://almostfrugal.com/?p=1535#comment-2618</guid> <description>For me, price is a larger determinant these days than it used to be but I&#039;m not anywhere near having it be the number one factor.
In regard to food, I think eating cheap junk food is an incredibly short-sighted decision.  You might not feel the repercussions for years to come, and if you&#039;re lucky, eating poorly might never catch up with you.  But it&#039;s a gamble.  And if you lose, the cost in terms of health and healthcare costs can be huge.
I firmly believe that quality is almost always the frugal choice, in the long run.  So cutting back is a question of cutting back on quantity, not quality.  To my mind, if I&#039;m considering a purchase but don&#039;t feel I can afford or justify the purchase right now, instead of looking for cheaper, lower-quality options, I am more likely to choose to delay the purchase instead.
I agree with Grey that cheap products perpetuate the evil cycle of being poor.  Cheap food, likewise, perpetuates an evil cycle ill health and poverty.  If, as a nation, we moved a little more toward the idea of owning less and owning it longer, we&#039;d all be better off.  But it&#039;s incredibly difficult to get people to think in terms of &quot;the long run.&quot;
&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Suburban Wife&#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.starrspun.com/dailydollardiary/2008/10/26/the-days-expenses-plus-swim-meet-tips/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;$$: The Day&#8217;s Expenses plus Swim Meet Tips&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt; </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, price is a larger determinant these days than it used to be but I&#039;m not anywhere near having it be the number one factor.</p><p>In regard to food, I think eating cheap junk food is an incredibly short-sighted decision.  You might not feel the repercussions for years to come, and if you&#039;re lucky, eating poorly might never catch up with you.  But it&#039;s a gamble.  And if you lose, the cost in terms of health and healthcare costs can be huge.</p><p>I firmly believe that quality is almost always the frugal choice, in the long run.  So cutting back is a question of cutting back on quantity, not quality.  To my mind, if I&#039;m considering a purchase but don&#039;t feel I can afford or justify the purchase right now, instead of looking for cheaper, lower-quality options, I am more likely to choose to delay the purchase instead.</p><p>I agree with Grey that cheap products perpetuate the evil cycle of being poor.  Cheap food, likewise, perpetuates an evil cycle ill health and poverty.  If, as a nation, we moved a little more toward the idea of owning less and owning it longer, we&#039;d all be better off.  But it&#039;s incredibly difficult to get people to think in terms of &quot;the long run.&quot;</p><p>&lt;abbr&gt;<em>Suburban Wife&#180;s last blog post..<a
href="http://www.starrspun.com/dailydollardiary/2008/10/26/the-days-expenses-plus-swim-meet-tips/" rel="nofollow">$$: The Day&rsquo;s Expenses plus Swim Meet Tips</a>&lt;/abbr&gt;</em></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mama K</title><link>http://almostfrugal.com/2008/10/20/when-price-becomes-the-only-factor/#comment-2616</link> <dc:creator>Mama K</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:37:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://almostfrugal.com/?p=1535#comment-2616</guid> <description>Nice post.
I have been feeling a little overwhelmed as late because I have been trying to find a ballence between all the factors in my head.
Still,  many healthy foods are also pretty cheap... organic rice and beans is cheaper than conventional meats.  And a piece of in-season fruit is usually cheaper than packaged stuff.
&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mama K&#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://mamaknj.blogspot.com/2008/10/glazed-donuts-for-breakfast.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;glazed donuts for breakfast?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt; </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post.</p><p>I have been feeling a little overwhelmed as late because I have been trying to find a ballence between all the factors in my head.</p><p>Still,  many healthy foods are also pretty cheap&#8230; organic rice and beans is cheaper than conventional meats.  And a piece of in-season fruit is usually cheaper than packaged stuff.</p><p>&lt;abbr&gt;<em>Mama K&#180;s last blog post..<a
href="http://mamaknj.blogspot.com/2008/10/glazed-donuts-for-breakfast.html" rel="nofollow">glazed donuts for breakfast?</a>&lt;/abbr&gt;</em></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kelly</title><link>http://almostfrugal.com/2008/10/20/when-price-becomes-the-only-factor/#comment-2588</link> <dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:19:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://almostfrugal.com/?p=1535#comment-2588</guid> <description>@Shevy,
I know, that was pretty funny! </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Shevy,</p><p>I know, that was pretty funny!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Shevy</title><link>http://almostfrugal.com/2008/10/20/when-price-becomes-the-only-factor/#comment-2586</link> <dc:creator>Shevy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:18:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://almostfrugal.com/?p=1535#comment-2586</guid> <description>I&#039;m sitting here killing myself laughing at the idea my comment about *kosher* food could be *SPAM* (which, for anyone who lives where it isn&#039;t available, is processed pork)!
Let&#039;s see if this goes through....</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sitting here killing myself laughing at the idea my comment about *kosher* food could be *SPAM* (which, for anyone who lives where it isn&#8217;t available, is processed pork)!</p><p>Let&#8217;s see if this goes through&#8230;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Courtney</title><link>http://almostfrugal.com/2008/10/20/when-price-becomes-the-only-factor/#comment-2575</link> <dc:creator>Courtney</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:36:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://almostfrugal.com/?p=1535#comment-2575</guid> <description>I feel this exact same way, especially when it comes to organic food.  I really try to buy as much organic food as possible for my baby (my husband and I can eat all sorts of junk, but the baby gets all the good stuff!).  However, most of the organic food I buy (or want to buy) is ridiculously expensive, so a lot of the time I have to make choices, and usually non-organic wins out.
&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Courtney&#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://theworldaccordingtomommy.com/blog1.php/2008/10/21/my-only-job-is-to-keep-myself-and-my-chi&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;My only job is to keep myself and my child alive...hope I don&#039;t screw it up&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel this exact same way, especially when it comes to organic food.  I really try to buy as much organic food as possible for my baby (my husband and I can eat all sorts of junk, but the baby gets all the good stuff!).  However, most of the organic food I buy (or want to buy) is ridiculously expensive, so a lot of the time I have to make choices, and usually non-organic wins out.</p><p><abbr><em>Courtney&#180;s last blog post..<a
href="http://theworldaccordingtomommy.com/blog1.php/2008/10/21/my-only-job-is-to-keep-myself-and-my-chi" rel="nofollow">My only job is to keep myself and my child alive&#8230;hope I don&#8217;t screw it up</a></em></abbr></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: The Other Laura</title><link>http://almostfrugal.com/2008/10/20/when-price-becomes-the-only-factor/#comment-2574</link> <dc:creator>The Other Laura</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:23:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://almostfrugal.com/?p=1535#comment-2574</guid> <description>While I definitely plan meals around what&#039;s on sale, while really trying to eat more locally (easier here in Texas than in some places) price is an important factor.
&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Other Laura&#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://lrh-oneofthree.blogspot.com/2008/10/vote.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Vote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I definitely plan meals around what&#8217;s on sale, while really trying to eat more locally (easier here in Texas than in some places) price is an important factor.</p><p><abbr><em>The Other Laura&#180;s last blog post..<a
href="http://lrh-oneofthree.blogspot.com/2008/10/vote.html" rel="nofollow">Vote</a></em></abbr></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sarah H.</title><link>http://almostfrugal.com/2008/10/20/when-price-becomes-the-only-factor/#comment-2573</link> <dc:creator>Sarah H.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:28:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://almostfrugal.com/?p=1535#comment-2573</guid> <description>Great food for thought here.  I admit I look at price, but always with a condition...will spending a little more up front save me more money in the long run because perhaps the more expensive item will last longer?  It&#039;s not always easy to determine, but I try.  I agree that during times like these, it&#039;s more tempting to just buy cheaper no matter what, but we should always be careful not to think that the best &#039;deal&#039; automatically has the lowest price tag.
&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Sarah H.&#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://lifestylesoftheorganized.com/2008/10/20/reflecting-on-the-potential-downsides-of-organizing/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Reflecting on the potential downsides of organizing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great food for thought here.  I admit I look at price, but always with a condition&#8230;will spending a little more up front save me more money in the long run because perhaps the more expensive item will last longer?  It&#8217;s not always easy to determine, but I try.  I agree that during times like these, it&#8217;s more tempting to just buy cheaper no matter what, but we should always be careful not to think that the best &#8216;deal&#8217; automatically has the lowest price tag.</p><p><abbr><em>Sarah H.&#180;s last blog post..<a
href="http://lifestylesoftheorganized.com/2008/10/20/reflecting-on-the-potential-downsides-of-organizing/" rel="nofollow">Reflecting on the potential downsides of organizing</a></em></abbr></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joe</title><link>http://almostfrugal.com/2008/10/20/when-price-becomes-the-only-factor/#comment-2571</link> <dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:44:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://almostfrugal.com/?p=1535#comment-2571</guid> <description>Price is definitely a factor for my spending.  But if I can buy some unhealthy food for $1, or some healthy version of the same food for $1.50, I will choose the healthier one.  Health is always more important than food.
Also, don&#039;t worry about your English, it is MUCH better than my French.
&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Joe&#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ecojoes.com/calculator-contest-win-a-free-calculatorcalendaralarm-clock/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Calculator Contest - Win a Free Calculator-Calendar-Alarm Clock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Price is definitely a factor for my spending.  But if I can buy some unhealthy food for $1, or some healthy version of the same food for $1.50, I will choose the healthier one.  Health is always more important than food.</p><p>Also, don&#8217;t worry about your English, it is MUCH better than my French.</p><p><abbr><em>Joe&#180;s last blog post..<a
href="http://www.ecojoes.com/calculator-contest-win-a-free-calculatorcalendaralarm-clock/" rel="nofollow">Calculator Contest &#8211; Win a Free Calculator-Calendar-Alarm Clock</a></em></abbr></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kelly</title><link>http://almostfrugal.com/2008/10/20/when-price-becomes-the-only-factor/#comment-2570</link> <dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:12:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://almostfrugal.com/?p=1535#comment-2570</guid> <description>(Kelly&#039;s note: Shevy posted this comment, and I accidentally spammed her! Whoops! While I&#039;m trying to figure out how to get her off the spammed list, I&#039;ve retrieved her comment from elsewhere and posted it... again. Shevy please let me know if any of your other comments don&#039;t get through. And sorry!)
For me the ultimate criteria for food is whether or not it&#039;s kosher.  It doesn&#039;t matter if it only costs ten cents.  If it&#039;s not kosher, I can&#039;t eat it.  And, unfortunately, a lot of kosher foods (cheese, meat, bread) are very expensive (like $5.99/lb for ground meat) and don&#039;t go on sale.
So, we eat as cheaply as we can through the week and only have meat for Shabbat and holidays.  But that means that we also eat things that aren&#039;t particularly healthy, like ramen noodle soup or mac and cheese during the week because they&#039;re (relatively) cheap (although they cost more than the non-kosher versions).
My priorities during the week:
Kosher
Price
Quality/taste
Although I can be tempted by taste.  I&#039;d rather have one or 2 pieces of Godiva chocolate than 6 Oh Henry bars.  But if I make that choice more than once every several months I&#039;m in trouble.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Kelly&#8217;s note: Shevy posted this comment, and I accidentally spammed her! Whoops! While I&#8217;m trying to figure out how to get her off the spammed list, I&#8217;ve retrieved her comment from elsewhere and posted it&#8230; again. Shevy please let me know if any of your other comments don&#8217;t get through. And sorry!)</p><p>For me the ultimate criteria for food is whether or not it&#8217;s kosher.  It doesn&#8217;t matter if it only costs ten cents.  If it&#8217;s not kosher, I can&#8217;t eat it.  And, unfortunately, a lot of kosher foods (cheese, meat, bread) are very expensive (like $5.99/lb for ground meat) and don&#8217;t go on sale.</p><p>So, we eat as cheaply as we can through the week and only have meat for Shabbat and holidays.  But that means that we also eat things that aren&#8217;t particularly healthy, like ramen noodle soup or mac and cheese during the week because they&#8217;re (relatively) cheap (although they cost more than the non-kosher versions).</p><p>My priorities during the week:<br
/> Kosher<br
/> Price<br
/> Quality/taste</p><p>Although I can be tempted by taste.  I&#8217;d rather have one or 2 pieces of Godiva chocolate than 6 Oh Henry bars.  But if I make that choice more than once every several months I&#8217;m in trouble.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
