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		<title>By: Rethink Your Shopping Patterns — Almost Frugal- a frugal blog</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] money shopping for groceries on every frugality and personal finance blog out there. I should know- I&#8217;ve written a few of them myself! A lot of the information is very specific however, and doesn&#8217;t address the underlying [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] money shopping for groceries on every frugality and personal finance blog out there. I should know- I&#8217;ve written a few of them myself! A lot of the information is very specific however, and doesn&#8217;t address the underlying [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meal plans are such a good idea and SUCH a lot of work to implement.  I was doing really well for a while, then I got sick again and everything just fell apart and I have not yet been able to reclaim it!  Any hints for doing this?  I&#039;m pretty sure once the plan was done, it would be fairly self-maintaining.  It&#039;s just getting it done!

We have been using rags instead of paper towel, and cloth napkins nearly forever.  I used cloth diapers (not the flat-fold ones) until I discovered that our new, super efficient washer just wouldn&#039;t get them clean.  Fortunately, that was with our last child!

I wouldn&#039;t do handkerchiefs, unless you are one who hands on to a tissue until it&#039;s well used (like I am!).  I don&#039;t think carrying a used handkerchief around is sanitary.  Of course neither is carrying a used tissue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meal plans are such a good idea and SUCH a lot of work to implement.  I was doing really well for a while, then I got sick again and everything just fell apart and I have not yet been able to reclaim it!  Any hints for doing this?  I&#8217;m pretty sure once the plan was done, it would be fairly self-maintaining.  It&#8217;s just getting it done!</p>
<p>We have been using rags instead of paper towel, and cloth napkins nearly forever.  I used cloth diapers (not the flat-fold ones) until I discovered that our new, super efficient washer just wouldn&#8217;t get them clean.  Fortunately, that was with our last child!</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t do handkerchiefs, unless you are one who hands on to a tissue until it&#8217;s well used (like I am!).  I don&#8217;t think carrying a used handkerchief around is sanitary.  Of course neither is carrying a used tissue.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with the &quot;less trips to the store&quot;.  Making a list helps a lot too- stick to the list!  I stock up on diapers and TP when they&#039;re on sale.  I&#039;m now using a dishcloth instead of paper towel.  We switched to cloth napkins, but have some paper on hand when we have a lot of people over.  I&#039;m THINKING about handkerchiefs... :)  We buy most of our kids clothes at garage sales, but fill in the gaps at the store.   I&#039;m trying out some homemade cleaners, with recipes on line- the 1/2c vinegar, 2c water, 1/2tsp dishsoap, few drops of favorite oil (lemon for me!) seems to work well.
As painful as it is, a planned menu for the week can save a ton.  There is so often left-over ingredients from one dinner.  Well planned, they can all be used throughout the week.  When you&#039;re more ambitious, I&#039;ve read (flylady.com, I think?) that you can have a 5 week menu for each season that just gets repeated.  You can switch the weeks around to coincide with the current grocery sales.  One of these days, I&#039;ll have to sit down and make that up!  If these 3 kids left me with some energy at the end of the day... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with the &#8220;less trips to the store&#8221;.  Making a list helps a lot too- stick to the list!  I stock up on diapers and TP when they&#8217;re on sale.  I&#8217;m now using a dishcloth instead of paper towel.  We switched to cloth napkins, but have some paper on hand when we have a lot of people over.  I&#8217;m THINKING about handkerchiefs&#8230; <img src='http://almostfrugal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   We buy most of our kids clothes at garage sales, but fill in the gaps at the store.   I&#8217;m trying out some homemade cleaners, with recipes on line- the 1/2c vinegar, 2c water, 1/2tsp dishsoap, few drops of favorite oil (lemon for me!) seems to work well.<br />
As painful as it is, a planned menu for the week can save a ton.  There is so often left-over ingredients from one dinner.  Well planned, they can all be used throughout the week.  When you&#8217;re more ambitious, I&#8217;ve read (flylady.com, I think?) that you can have a 5 week menu for each season that just gets repeated.  You can switch the weeks around to coincide with the current grocery sales.  One of these days, I&#8217;ll have to sit down and make that up!  If these 3 kids left me with some energy at the end of the day&#8230; <img src='http://almostfrugal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<dc:creator>Simple Living News Update: Week of June 22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Limiting your grocery store visits is a good start at controlling your food budget.Also you can purchase a grocery store gift card in the amount of your weekly budget.This way you keep tabs on the remaining balance after each store visit.

Jon
WanderingWwoof.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Limiting your grocery store visits is a good start at controlling your food budget.Also you can purchase a grocery store gift card in the amount of your weekly budget.This way you keep tabs on the remaining balance after each store visit.</p>
<p>Jon<br />
WanderingWwoof.com</p>
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		<title>By: Kika</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read a couple of Dave Ramsey&#039;s books and, as a Canadian, found them helpful. While I&#039;m not following his recommended &quot;program&quot; 100%, his books encouraged me in many ways and I would recommend them to others.</description>
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		<title>By: Meg from FruWiki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meg from FruWiki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JP,

I&#039;ve looked into Dave Ramsey&#039;s plan, but disagree with some of it. 

First off, he wants people to pay their smallest debts of first, even though they might lose a lot of money on interest doing that if their larger debts have higher interest. I understand the psychology of it -- since you feel like you&#039;re making more progress -- but I&#039;d still recommend that everyone try to tackle higher interest debts first. If they can&#039;t stay motivated enough, then they can try paying off a smaller debt here and there.

Also, while I&#039;m glad he does recommend starting with an emergency fund, even the first one should be larger than $1000, imho. A bare minimum emergency fund should be enough to fund: repairing major problems with your car like replacing the engine (or buying a cheap used one if need be), paying the deductible on insurances (health, home, car, etc.), and/or paying your largest bill (even just in case you get double billed for your mortgage one month like happened to us!). 

Also, the larger emergency fund should be larger for most people. A 3-6 month emergency fund is nothing these days when it&#039;s taking many people much longer to find a job. Even 6-8 isn&#039;t always cutting it -- and remember, your expenses may be higher if you lose your job because you&#039;ll have Cobra and perhaps other expenses your job covered. One rule of thumb I&#039;ve heard is to take the unemployment rate in your area and convert it to months. 12% unemployment = 12 month emergency fund. Of course, it&#039;ll also depend on the availability of your job in the area, your flexibility in taking other jobs, the minimum salary you could settle for, etc.

Also, I would not wait to pay off all debt before building the larger emergency fund if you&#039;re more than a few months away from off all your debt. What if you lose your job? You miss a payment on one thing and all your interest rates will go through the roof! Plus, you cannot depend on credit cards in an emergency because they&#039;ve been cutting limits and closing accounts -- even if your credit scores are fabulous and you&#039;ve never missed a payment on anything, ever! Trust me, I know! And you can&#039;t depend on unemployment, either. Not only is it a pitiful amount, but more companies are fighting it by saying people were fired instead of laid off. And even without companies causing trouble, the unemployment offices are backed up! It took a friend of mine months to see her first check!

On the other hand, I don&#039;t want to see anyone paying tons of interest. So, try to get those interest rates down any way you can, pay off the highest interest rate cards first, but also keep throwing some money into the EF. And the lower your interest rates get, the more you throw in the EF. 

And finally, in some cases it might make more sense to pay off your home before saving for your kids&#039; college (if you even have or plan on kids!). If you have time to save later, if your interest rate isn&#039;t super low, if you can pay your home off years before you have college age kids, go ahead and pay off the home. You&#039;ll be able to save easier when you don&#039;t have a mortgage, imho. And I wouldn&#039;t ever put money into anything that is strictly for college and can&#039;t be taken back out without huge penalties because you never know if kids will even go to college.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve looked into Dave Ramsey&#8217;s plan, but disagree with some of it. </p>
<p>First off, he wants people to pay their smallest debts of first, even though they might lose a lot of money on interest doing that if their larger debts have higher interest. I understand the psychology of it &#8212; since you feel like you&#8217;re making more progress &#8212; but I&#8217;d still recommend that everyone try to tackle higher interest debts first. If they can&#8217;t stay motivated enough, then they can try paying off a smaller debt here and there.</p>
<p>Also, while I&#8217;m glad he does recommend starting with an emergency fund, even the first one should be larger than $1000, imho. A bare minimum emergency fund should be enough to fund: repairing major problems with your car like replacing the engine (or buying a cheap used one if need be), paying the deductible on insurances (health, home, car, etc.), and/or paying your largest bill (even just in case you get double billed for your mortgage one month like happened to us!). </p>
<p>Also, the larger emergency fund should be larger for most people. A 3-6 month emergency fund is nothing these days when it&#8217;s taking many people much longer to find a job. Even 6-8 isn&#8217;t always cutting it &#8212; and remember, your expenses may be higher if you lose your job because you&#8217;ll have Cobra and perhaps other expenses your job covered. One rule of thumb I&#8217;ve heard is to take the unemployment rate in your area and convert it to months. 12% unemployment = 12 month emergency fund. Of course, it&#8217;ll also depend on the availability of your job in the area, your flexibility in taking other jobs, the minimum salary you could settle for, etc.</p>
<p>Also, I would not wait to pay off all debt before building the larger emergency fund if you&#8217;re more than a few months away from off all your debt. What if you lose your job? You miss a payment on one thing and all your interest rates will go through the roof! Plus, you cannot depend on credit cards in an emergency because they&#8217;ve been cutting limits and closing accounts &#8212; even if your credit scores are fabulous and you&#8217;ve never missed a payment on anything, ever! Trust me, I know! And you can&#8217;t depend on unemployment, either. Not only is it a pitiful amount, but more companies are fighting it by saying people were fired instead of laid off. And even without companies causing trouble, the unemployment offices are backed up! It took a friend of mine months to see her first check!</p>
<p>On the other hand, I don&#8217;t want to see anyone paying tons of interest. So, try to get those interest rates down any way you can, pay off the highest interest rate cards first, but also keep throwing some money into the EF. And the lower your interest rates get, the more you throw in the EF. </p>
<p>And finally, in some cases it might make more sense to pay off your home before saving for your kids&#8217; college (if you even have or plan on kids!). If you have time to save later, if your interest rate isn&#8217;t super low, if you can pay your home off years before you have college age kids, go ahead and pay off the home. You&#8217;ll be able to save easier when you don&#8217;t have a mortgage, imho. And I wouldn&#8217;t ever put money into anything that is strictly for college and can&#8217;t be taken back out without huge penalties because you never know if kids will even go to college.<br />
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