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> <channel><title>Comments on: When 50-50 Doesn&#8217;t Add Up</title> <atom:link href="http://almostfrugal.com/2010/04/22/when-50-50-doesnt-add-up/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://almostfrugal.com/2010/04/22/when-50-50-doesnt-add-up/</link> <description>Learning about frugality</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:11:06 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Nicole</title><link>http://almostfrugal.com/2010/04/22/when-50-50-doesnt-add-up/#comment-7562</link> <dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:22:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://almostfrugal.com/?p=4653#comment-7562</guid> <description>Thanks for these comments (sorry I haven&#039;t piped in sooner, I&#039;ve been getting them via email all week though). I&#039;m glad people are having conversations about money and coming up with things that work for them and their partner. That&#039;s what it&#039;s all about!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for these comments (sorry I haven&#8217;t piped in sooner, I&#8217;ve been getting them via email all week though). I&#8217;m glad people are having conversations about money and coming up with things that work for them and their partner. That&#8217;s what it&#8217;s all about!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: veganprimate</title><link>http://almostfrugal.com/2010/04/22/when-50-50-doesnt-add-up/#comment-7498</link> <dc:creator>veganprimate</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:01:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://almostfrugal.com/?p=4653#comment-7498</guid> <description>I&#039;m with you.  50/50 is unfair when one person makes less.  I think if each person paid a percent of their income, that would be more fair.
I also don&#039;t believe in combining finances EVER...not even if you&#039;re married.  Nobody thinks their husband or wife will screw them over, but it happens.  If you have a joint credit card, one person can rack up serious debt and then take off.  The other person is left having to pay it off.  I don&#039;t think that is the case if the card is only in one person&#039;s name, although I may be wrong.
.-= veganprimate &#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://veganprimate.wordpress.com/2010/04/22/im-doing-it/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I&#039;m doing it&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you.  50/50 is unfair when one person makes less.  I think if each person paid a percent of their income, that would be more fair.</p><p>I also don&#8217;t believe in combining finances EVER&#8230;not even if you&#8217;re married.  Nobody thinks their husband or wife will screw them over, but it happens.  If you have a joint credit card, one person can rack up serious debt and then take off.  The other person is left having to pay it off.  I don&#8217;t think that is the case if the card is only in one person&#8217;s name, although I may be wrong.<br
/> .-= veganprimate &#180;s last blog ..<a
href="http://veganprimate.wordpress.com/2010/04/22/im-doing-it/" rel="nofollow">I&#8217;m doing it</a> =-.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chris lynn</title><link>http://almostfrugal.com/2010/04/22/when-50-50-doesnt-add-up/#comment-7495</link> <dc:creator>Chris lynn</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 18:46:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://almostfrugal.com/?p=4653#comment-7495</guid> <description>It&#039;s true,
Rationalization of 50/50 doesn&#039;t make any sense in terms of budgeting.  If one earner is making 80k a year and the other is making 30k a year, splitting expenses is ridiculously in favor of the top earner.  I&#039;ve watched couples tear themselves apart playing the 50/50 rule and it never seems to end well.
In my case, I am the low earner and my wife is the bread winner.  Although that wasn&#039;t always the case.  Ten years ago it was the opposite, she&#039;s just being nice to me now and keeping me around because I cook, clean and fix things.
What we ended up doing was using my salary initially to bully the mortgage to zero quickly and save what she was making.  To have this work in our situation, my awesome wife and I understand we are financial partners, my money isn&#039;t mine and her money isn&#039;t her&#039;s.  We pool our resources and direct it.  It worked out so well, the house is paid for, she got to head back to school and become a nurse. I hung up my spurs as an Engineer after the house was paid off and she finished school.  Now do handy man jobs and day trade when it&#039;s quiet in the winter.  I also make sure she and the kids come home to a nice clean house and a decent meal.
So no, 50/50 doesn&#039;t work primarily because it&#039;s a short term solution and still assumes people are living separately while living together.  The only long term solution is to make sure you understand your partner is your equal in friendship and use whatever financial solutions at that time to make both your lives better over the long haul.  Start cutting the household kitty down the middle and it&#039;s asking for trouble.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true,</p><p>Rationalization of 50/50 doesn&#8217;t make any sense in terms of budgeting.  If one earner is making 80k a year and the other is making 30k a year, splitting expenses is ridiculously in favor of the top earner.  I&#8217;ve watched couples tear themselves apart playing the 50/50 rule and it never seems to end well.</p><p>In my case, I am the low earner and my wife is the bread winner.  Although that wasn&#8217;t always the case.  Ten years ago it was the opposite, she&#8217;s just being nice to me now and keeping me around because I cook, clean and fix things.</p><p>What we ended up doing was using my salary initially to bully the mortgage to zero quickly and save what she was making.  To have this work in our situation, my awesome wife and I understand we are financial partners, my money isn&#8217;t mine and her money isn&#8217;t her&#8217;s.  We pool our resources and direct it.  It worked out so well, the house is paid for, she got to head back to school and become a nurse. I hung up my spurs as an Engineer after the house was paid off and she finished school.  Now do handy man jobs and day trade when it&#8217;s quiet in the winter.  I also make sure she and the kids come home to a nice clean house and a decent meal.</p><p>So no, 50/50 doesn&#8217;t work primarily because it&#8217;s a short term solution and still assumes people are living separately while living together.  The only long term solution is to make sure you understand your partner is your equal in friendship and use whatever financial solutions at that time to make both your lives better over the long haul.  Start cutting the household kitty down the middle and it&#8217;s asking for trouble.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Simple in France</title><link>http://almostfrugal.com/2010/04/22/when-50-50-doesnt-add-up/#comment-7494</link> <dc:creator>Simple in France</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 11:41:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://almostfrugal.com/?p=4653#comment-7494</guid> <description>Nice topic--I have to agree with you that the 50/50 rule seems arbitrary.  I completely agree with keeping money separate when the relationship is not a &#039;for good&#039; type of commitment.  That said, paying 1/2 of someone&#039;s mortgage doesn&#039;t make any sense.  Do you get your own room +bathroom?  Hah!  No, if you move in with someone who is established, it seems paying roomate share is fair--to me anyhow.
I also like the way you factor in housework!  When we first moved in together my husband wanted to help me with house work, he really did.  He just was woefully unprepared to do it.  So at first, it was more work for me to teach him than for me to just do it myself. . .in time, he got better, but PHEW!  It was a lot of work at first.  At the time, we were unmarried, and we&#039;d just moved to a rather high-rent area following his job.  I had planned to go back to school . . . if we wanted to stay together, it meant he had to pay the rent for about a year--I paid groceries and utilities and took care a lot of the household chores.  It was basically that or break up so that I could go to school in a place with cheaper rent . . .It worked out for us!
.-= Simple in France&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.simplelifeinfrance.com/2010/04/where-would-you-be-without-debt/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Where would you be without debt?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice topic&#8211;I have to agree with you that the 50/50 rule seems arbitrary.  I completely agree with keeping money separate when the relationship is not a &#8216;for good&#8217; type of commitment.  That said, paying 1/2 of someone&#8217;s mortgage doesn&#8217;t make any sense.  Do you get your own room +bathroom?  Hah!  No, if you move in with someone who is established, it seems paying roomate share is fair&#8211;to me anyhow.</p><p>I also like the way you factor in housework!  When we first moved in together my husband wanted to help me with house work, he really did.  He just was woefully unprepared to do it.  So at first, it was more work for me to teach him than for me to just do it myself. . .in time, he got better, but PHEW!  It was a lot of work at first.  At the time, we were unmarried, and we&#8217;d just moved to a rather high-rent area following his job.  I had planned to go back to school . . . if we wanted to stay together, it meant he had to pay the rent for about a year&#8211;I paid groceries and utilities and took care a lot of the household chores.  It was basically that or break up so that I could go to school in a place with cheaper rent . . .It worked out for us!<br
/> .-= Simple in France&#180;s last blog ..<a
href="http://www.simplelifeinfrance.com/2010/04/where-would-you-be-without-debt/" rel="nofollow">Where would you be without debt?</a> =-.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: J. Money</title><link>http://almostfrugal.com/2010/04/22/when-50-50-doesnt-add-up/#comment-7492</link> <dc:creator>J. Money</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 21:12:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://almostfrugal.com/?p=4653#comment-7492</guid> <description>Glad you found the post interesting enough to write on!  It&#039;s def. a sensitive topic that&#039;s for sure, but that&#039;s why it&#039;s perfect for blogs ;)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you found the post interesting enough to write on!  It&#8217;s def. a sensitive topic that&#8217;s for sure, but that&#8217;s why it&#8217;s perfect for blogs <img
src='http://almostfrugal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Annie Binns</title><link>http://almostfrugal.com/2010/04/22/when-50-50-doesnt-add-up/#comment-7491</link> <dc:creator>Annie Binns</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 19:56:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://almostfrugal.com/?p=4653#comment-7491</guid> <description>As a married person, I still believe in splitting expenses.  We split based on % of combined income.  It doesn&#039;t get more fair than that, in my opinion.  We don&#039;t combine bank accounts, so we are free to do what we will with the remainder (i.e. we choose and pay for our own cars, credit cards, etc).  I hear from friends that this isn&#039;t the &quot;teamwork&quot; that we should have as a married couple; but we have never had a single argument about money.  It&#039;s important to note that we both save for retirement in our company plans; and we happen to have a similar spending patterns (we are both savers, not spenders).</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a married person, I still believe in splitting expenses.  We split based on % of combined income.  It doesn&#8217;t get more fair than that, in my opinion.  We don&#8217;t combine bank accounts, so we are free to do what we will with the remainder (i.e. we choose and pay for our own cars, credit cards, etc).  I hear from friends that this isn&#8217;t the &#8220;teamwork&#8221; that we should have as a married couple; but we have never had a single argument about money.  It&#8217;s important to note that we both save for retirement in our company plans; and we happen to have a similar spending patterns (we are both savers, not spenders).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lisa</title><link>http://almostfrugal.com/2010/04/22/when-50-50-doesnt-add-up/#comment-7490</link> <dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 18:17:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://almostfrugal.com/?p=4653#comment-7490</guid> <description>Living with some one is a scary thing financially. I have been dating my boyfriend for almost four years, living together for two of those years. I was the one who bought a house, even though I make literally half as much money as he does. Since I bought my house, I&#039;ve started grad school and been contemplating taking a lower paying internship, neither of which would be financially possible without him unless I relied heavily on student loans (something I&#039;m trying to avoid at all costs). We each pay our own individual bills and split utilities and groceries down the middle. He pays me half of the mortgage for rent. Hopefully, we&#039;ll get married in the near future, but until then I prefer to keep our finances separate. We both know about each other&#039;s debts and spending habits, and we have a plan for paying our combined debt off after we&#039;re married based on the loans that have the higher interest first, no matter whose they are.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Living with some one is a scary thing financially. I have been dating my boyfriend for almost four years, living together for two of those years. I was the one who bought a house, even though I make literally half as much money as he does. Since I bought my house, I&#8217;ve started grad school and been contemplating taking a lower paying internship, neither of which would be financially possible without him unless I relied heavily on student loans (something I&#8217;m trying to avoid at all costs). We each pay our own individual bills and split utilities and groceries down the middle. He pays me half of the mortgage for rent. Hopefully, we&#8217;ll get married in the near future, but until then I prefer to keep our finances separate. We both know about each other&#8217;s debts and spending habits, and we have a plan for paying our combined debt off after we&#8217;re married based on the loans that have the higher interest first, no matter whose they are.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: broke207</title><link>http://almostfrugal.com/2010/04/22/when-50-50-doesnt-add-up/#comment-7489</link> <dc:creator>broke207</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:25:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://almostfrugal.com/?p=4653#comment-7489</guid> <description>OMG! you&#039;re from maine!! that never happens. my boyfriend and i just bought a condo together because it was cheaper than renting. our parents and friends were aghast, but we figure if it doesn&#039;t work out, we can always split the equity and call it a day. i actually make more money than he does, but we are on the 50/50 plan because i have more debt and it sort of balances out. although there are some customizations to the program. for example, i do all of the cooking and buy most of the food, and he does all of the driving and pays for pretty much all of the car expenses. finances are as unique as relationships, and it would be completely misguided to assume that the same plan is going to work for everyone.  it&#039;s actually a really good test of compatibility to see how well you can navigate shared finances in a way that all needs are met and no one ends up feeling ripped off.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG! you&#8217;re from maine!! that never happens. my boyfriend and i just bought a condo together because it was cheaper than renting. our parents and friends were aghast, but we figure if it doesn&#8217;t work out, we can always split the equity and call it a day. i actually make more money than he does, but we are on the 50/50 plan because i have more debt and it sort of balances out. although there are some customizations to the program. for example, i do all of the cooking and buy most of the food, and he does all of the driving and pays for pretty much all of the car expenses. finances are as unique as relationships, and it would be completely misguided to assume that the same plan is going to work for everyone.  it&#8217;s actually a really good test of compatibility to see how well you can navigate shared finances in a way that all needs are met and no one ends up feeling ripped off.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tracy @ Sew what...</title><link>http://almostfrugal.com/2010/04/22/when-50-50-doesnt-add-up/#comment-7488</link> <dc:creator>Tracy @ Sew what...</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:24:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://almostfrugal.com/?p=4653#comment-7488</guid> <description>I think it is up to the couple, personally. And the reasons for not being married are also varied. I lived with a boyfriend and we split everything 50/50 until we got to groceries. He bought the groceries, he also made almost 2 times what I did. By the end of bills, I was BROKE. Plus I was responsible for my personal bills like my car payment and my insurance. It worked for us. When we split up, we were ok with one another. I also, did most of the cleaning, so I felt I made up for the &quot;grocery&quot; shortage.
The man I&#039;m living with now pays for all the bills. I pay for groceries and my car note. I also pay our car insurances, every six months. We did combine our finances, but this is because we have  son together and we live as a married couple. And the only reason we aren&#039;t married is because I&#039;m in the middle of going to college, and that&#039;s just too much paperwork to deal with. I do almost 100% of the cleaning and cooking, plus I take care of our son. He works third shift and he works hard, so I don&#039;t see that I&#039;m contributing less to the house than he is. I am now unemployed, but that&#039;s something we also figured out. And because I respect the fact that he is working so hard to pay our expenses, I do as much as I can to be responsible with the money and purchase intelligently and not be frivolous.
I do agree with most situations, not combining the finances and going as close as 50/50 as you can is the wisest choice, so that when the split comes, it&#039;s easy and with less fuss.
.-= Tracy @ Sew what...&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://sew-what-t.blogspot.com/2010/04/food-waste-fridaymenu.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Food Waste Friday/Menu...&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is up to the couple, personally. And the reasons for not being married are also varied. I lived with a boyfriend and we split everything 50/50 until we got to groceries. He bought the groceries, he also made almost 2 times what I did. By the end of bills, I was BROKE. Plus I was responsible for my personal bills like my car payment and my insurance. It worked for us. When we split up, we were ok with one another. I also, did most of the cleaning, so I felt I made up for the &#8220;grocery&#8221; shortage.</p><p>The man I&#8217;m living with now pays for all the bills. I pay for groceries and my car note. I also pay our car insurances, every six months. We did combine our finances, but this is because we have  son together and we live as a married couple. And the only reason we aren&#8217;t married is because I&#8217;m in the middle of going to college, and that&#8217;s just too much paperwork to deal with. I do almost 100% of the cleaning and cooking, plus I take care of our son. He works third shift and he works hard, so I don&#8217;t see that I&#8217;m contributing less to the house than he is. I am now unemployed, but that&#8217;s something we also figured out. And because I respect the fact that he is working so hard to pay our expenses, I do as much as I can to be responsible with the money and purchase intelligently and not be frivolous.</p><p>I do agree with most situations, not combining the finances and going as close as 50/50 as you can is the wisest choice, so that when the split comes, it&#8217;s easy and with less fuss.<br
/> .-= Tracy @ Sew what&#8230;&#180;s last blog ..<a
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